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michael17
Member #67,558I thought about moving on april, but I wanted to take your advice into consideration. I’ve just realised, i’ve been making all the wrong moves. i haven’t given it my best shot yet. i could give up and let her go, but not before I earn some respect first. you see april, im weak ,desperate, and obsessive. as ive been following your guidance, ive learned i need to step up my game, ive always been a turn off for this girl because i didnt start with changing myself first! april i am pathetic and lonely, imade myself this way becuase i refused to take care of myself, im scrawny and needy, i allow people like ashleys boyfriend, walk right over me. hes in control , hes the jerk. im the nice guy, and nice guys finish last! will not anymore, i refuse to standby and let this a-hole keep my love away from me! over the course of six months im going to become what ashley wants me to be! A strong- confident-Man! I’m gonna make dramatic life changes like become buff. I’ll get to push bullies like Jon around, I get to be the hero, take his place, and do ”the dirty work”‘. i dont know if you think this will boost my chance with her, but either way, i will not allow an arrrogant punk stand in the way of what i demand most! he may have been able to use me as his doormat before, but no longer, this means war, its time to leave the boys life behind, and enter a mans world. six months later, i plan to return to ashleys high school and earn my redemption! who cares if i miss a call, who cares , if she doesnt call at all, who cares if they remain with each other! im gonna value the space, and use it as as a part of my evoloution! men are are like dirty, savage animals, im going to embrace that title, and show it to the whole damn world! i may be miserable and depressed, but that doesnt stop me from being the best i can be! i cant wait for her any longer. its time i give it all i got! But talk is cheap, I need your guidance, step , by step on bringing on my Revoloution! michael17
Member #67,558also on a side note, this the 3rd time, that they got back together, so im worried that this roller coaster could go on for a long time, going up and down, and back and fourth. who knows maybe they’ll stop seeing each other, what’s your further thoughts on this? i just dont know what to do from here, dont expect a call until she breaks up with him? heck im not how i should even being thinking about this, is it just paranoia, or actual logic? michael17
Member #67,558well april, its a little bit of both. hes threatned my life because i made that mistake, in the past, plus he doesn’t want me competing. plus im really not sure she’ll take me back, just because she would be single again. i dont know if its legit, but he told me they really love each other, and that even though they’re kids like me, he said shes goes around telling me, that he is her husband, so i dont know if he bs-ing me or telling me the harsh truth. infact he said alot of the thing like that they talk every day and night and that ”he would help me getta 2nd chance once they breakup, but honestly with the stuff hes done hes shady and trustworthy, but they probaly hang out alot. remember this is a high school relationship problem, so im sure it differs greatly to an adult relationship, unless u tell me otherwise. tell me what you think of all this. and yeah i am indeed desperate…not literally, but im basically on my knees pleading for her respect and love. plus usually when she says she’ll call she doesnt. her most recent excuse was that shes been busy. the boyfriend also tells me they’ll be together for a long time, especially that theyre in school and that alot of girls ask him out but he denys them because this girl were competing with ”ashley” is apparently special to him. but with all the claims of abuse going around, i dont know what to believe. im not gonna lie april, im indeed OBSESSED. my craving for her is so strong, i think about her 24/7, i just cant sleep or cope with my off-kilter life properly. i want her back more than anything april! i dont know weather to take these kids word for it or they’re just screwin with me. to recap with my advice request, im terrible with my relentless desperation , and pretty much further advice for ”my pursuit of interest”. i guess its also about a loss of security. i feel that when and if shes mine again, ill be happy and finally gain a sence of relief! michael17
Member #67,558this is understandable, but im afraid to getr involved b/c she has a bf, and he has threatened me in the past. should i wait till till they break up again b/c i feel coward and im afraid to deal with this.
also: im confused on the approach i should take, im sorry i look other places, but i just wanna be for sure.
please look at these responses, and tell me if you find them advisable.1. it sounds like she is keeping you on the back burner, in case this guy hurts her Again
not very fair of her to do that, nor to say she will call and doesn’t
sounds like she is playing games with you
she likes the attentionup to you whether you want to hang around and keep trying
or leave her be for a little while to see if she comes to youeither way, i hope you get her back
good luck2. You are one mature 17 year old. Basically you just gotta lay it all on the line. Tell her every part of how you feel and that you still care. She might be trying to make you jealous, or this other guy might have been after her for a while. Try to find out what you both want without bias. And try to get her to talk, not use one word replies. She’s doing that to make it easier on herself
3. Alright first things first, If you want her more than a friend you need to find out who she really likes. If she likes this boy then you may just have to accept it theres not much you can do. I know it hurts but acting al desperate infront of a girl will probally push her away if she doesn’t like you in that way. Personally I would call her and talk to her then maybe try get into a more deeper conversation about you’re emotions towards her then depending on her response the pieces should fall into place.
4. This girl sounds like she’s stringing you along. If you really want her back, you can’t give her the comfort of constant contact (and constantly knowing you’re “still there” if she wants you). This will prolong the breakup indefinitely.
What you need to do is pull back, go away, and give her time to actually miss you. Let her call, or text, or email, and refuse to answer for a while. This will get her worried that you’re losing interest, at which point she’ll realize she can *actually lose you*.
If she still has feelings for you? This is when she’ll come around. And not a minute before that.
michael17
Member #67,558Well here I am again, I’m sorry about buggin ‘ya. I just wanted your further guidance. I am sorry. Thanks for your help so far. The girl called me 10:30 a.m. It rang a couple of times, then hung up. I called back right away, and asked her if she was trying to call me. She said no, the baby just likes to play with the phone. We talked for about 10-15+ mins, she said she was texing her boyfriend while she was talking to me. she still complains of what I did, thus I continue to be apoligetic. A little bit later, she started texting me, I responded right away, and it was small things, like hi, what’s up. She called me after a text message, and we talked for a few minutes, she said “I can call you when I get home from my boyfriends house, if you want”. I said, “I’d appreciate that, have a nice day”. It’s like last time, she lied, she, still hasn’t returned her call. I always get the feeling, it’s my fault, like I did something to anger her. The conversation seemed fine, so I’m clueless. I really get the horrible feeling she’s messing with me, and wants nothing to do with me. And I’m, also sorry to say, I’m failing in school, I’m many years behind, so I plan to just drop out and pursue an adult education. With no life and no friends, April, I make her my only option. To make matters worse, I’ve been diagnosed by my therapistwith Obsessive compulsive disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. I don’t know if you understand those mental disorders, but living with with that combo is horrrible. I can’t get my head straight and focus on something else, no matter how hard I try, I’m always bent on the girl. I know you’re not her, but can you please give me an idea of her motives and how i should be dealing with her? Please, I really need your help. Like shouild I wait a while before I responsd, ignore completely for awhile, just tell her i’m busy? I asked her about the night she didn’t call, and if she had any plans of calliing me again, she said no. I’m just not like other boys,playing sports, actin’ silly with friends, or just so into myself. plus I dont find it safe to even try to talk to her. her boyfriend has answered her texts before and threatned me. the only info i know about him is that he’s on probation, he’s fat, he’s 15 and his name is jon. i mean do you think if she really wants me, if i were to ignore her for a long time, she would say so. she even admitted to me after giving him my phone number, even though he threatned me, he’s always been nice to her, plus they’re usually at his house. please, understand, april, it’s not so simple for me. -
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