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TaraMember #382,680If he truly intended to marry you, you wouldn’t be confused, waiting, or negotiating timelines like a project manager begging for updates. Ready men don’t forget, delay, or conveniently go silent when commitment is on the table. He knows exactly what you want. You’ve already told him. The absence of action isn’t forgetfulness; it’s a decision. Right now, he’s asking you to uproot your life and your child while he keeps maximum flexibility and minimum responsibility. That’s not partnership, that’s leverage.
Do not move without a ring, and absolutely do not “play house,” hoping effort will magically turn into commitment. That fantasy only benefits him. Once you move, the pressure disappears. He gets companionship, convenience, and loyalty without obligation. Engagement after relocation becomes optional, not urgent. And no, there is no magical way to “remind him” without sounding pushy because clarity feels pushy to someone enjoying ambiguity. The moment you’re afraid to ask for what you need, you already have your answer.
Here’s what you do: you stop hinting, and you stop waiting. You state, once and calmly, that you will not relocate without a formal commitment and a clear plan for marriage. Then you shut up and watch what he does next. If he steps up, good. If he stalls, deflects, or accuses you of pressure, you don’t argue; you stay where you are.
TaraMember #382,680You didn’t just “have a porn problem”; you trained your partner for years to distrust you, then acted shocked when that distrust turned feral. You spent seven years earning loyalty through your eyes, attention, and discipline, and now you’re confused why she believes you’re capable of worse. Porn, constant objectifying, emotional absence, those aren’t harmless habits; they’re slow betrayals. You taught her that she was competing with every woman you looked at. Once trust erodes, it doesn’t collapse cleanly; it rots, and what you’re describing now is the rot.
Now, let’s be absolutely clear about the current situation: this relationship is already dead in its old form. The spyware, trackers, family surveillance, lie detectors, that’s not love, reconciliation, or repair. That’s paranoia mixed with obsession, and it’s unhealthy for both of you. You didn’t fix anything by leaving the house either. That was a coward’s move at the exact moment leadership was required. You didn’t “give her space,” you confirmed her worst fear: that when pressure hit, you ran. You can swear on your life you didn’t cheat, and you may be telling the truth, but credibility isn’t built with words or tests after the damage is done. It’s built with consistent behavior before suspicion ever starts. You were late.
Here’s the part you won’t like: you cannot convince her back. Begging, explaining, proving, and pleading all of that makes you smaller and reinforces the power imbalance. The more desperate you are, the less safe she feels. If she wanted reconciliation, it would require mutual accountability, professional intervention, boundaries, and a complete reset, not surveillance and interrogation. Right now, she doesn’t want a partner; she wants control to soothe her anxiety. And you want absolution to soothe your guilt. That combination rebuilds nothing.
So what should you do? You stop chasing a version of the past that no longer exists. You take responsibility without groveling. You get therapy for your compulsive behavior, whether she comes back or not. You establish firm boundaries: no tracking, no spying, no third-party harassment. If she refuses, you walk not out of pride, but out of self-respect and stability for your children. Final verdict: you broke trust slowly, she broke sanity quickly, and neither of you can fix this by clinging. Either rebuild something entirely new with professional help and mutual limits, or accept that this chapter is over and become a better man for the next one.
December 23, 2025 at 3:07 pm in reply to: He cancelled our date via text; I don’t believe his excuse so I didn’t reply #51354
TaraMember #382,680This man is inconsistent, performative, and already managing multiple narratives, and you felt it immediately because your instincts aren’t stupid. The “Good Morning Princess,” the sudden intensity, the dramatic claim that he’s been thinking about you non-stop, and the announcement about deactivating his dating profile are not signs of sincerity; they’re cheap intimacy shortcuts. Men who are grounded don’t escalate emotionally while de-escalating behaviorally. They don’t talk big and then vanish behind convenient chaos. That’s manipulation, not momentum.
Now let’s deal with the cancellation. Yes, it smells off not because meeting an ex-wife is impossible, but because the timing is perfect and the effort is zero. A man who genuinely values you doesn’t cancel a long-standing plan without immediately offering a concrete alternative. He didn’t say, “I’m sorry, this is unavoidable. Can we reschedule for tomorrow at this time?” He gave you a story and left you holding the disappointment. That’s not adult dating, that’s someone keeping you warm while he sorts out his priorities, which may very well include his ex, another woman, or simply his own need for attention.
Not responding was the correct move. Silence was the only moment in this entire situation where you maintained dignity instead of chasing clarity from someone who hasn’t earned it. Do not explain yourself. Do not soften it. Do not “check in.” If he’s serious, he’ll follow up with accountability and a specific plan. If he doesn’t, then congratulations,s you just dodged a man who confuses charm with character.
As for next weekend? Absolutely do not plan around him. Do not hold space. Do not wait. If he wants to see you, he will explicitly re-invite you with effort and certainty. Until then, assume nothing and expect nothing.
TaraMember #382,680Right now, you’re not facing “opposition,” you’re facing a test of whether you’re actually a man capable of building a life or just a boy begging for permission. Her parents aren’t the real problem. Your lack of leverage is. Love without independence is noise. If you can’t stand on your own feet financially, legally, emotionally, and socially, then you have no authority to demand lifelong commitment from anyone’s daughter. Indian parents don’t respect feelings; they respect stability, status, and certainty. If you don’t bring those to the table, their rejection is rational, not cruel.
Now the harder part you probably don’t want to hear: your girlfriend’s willingness only matters if she’s ready to choose you over her parents, publicly and permanently. If she hesitates, delays, or hides behind “time will fix it,” then she’s not committed; she’s comfortable. A lifetime partnership requires spine, not sentiment. If she won’t stand with you when it costs her comfort, she will not stand with you when life actually gets hard. That’s not romance, that’s reality.
So what do you do now? You stop whining, stop romanticizing struggle, and start building undeniable proof. Get financially independent. Become socially credible. Make yourself impossible to dismiss. Either you rise to a level where their opposition collapses under your competence, or you accept that love alone doesn’t win wars in the real world.
TaraMember #382,680You’re not “warming up to living together,” you’re already living together without the security, respect, or commitment. He’s getting a full-time girlfriend who cooks, sleeps there, uses his space, and revolves her life around his house, while he keeps total control and zero obligation. That’s not caution. That’s convenience.
If he wanted you to move in, you’d already be moved in. Men don’t need trial runs for ten months of love and five nights a week of cohabitation. What he proposed was a loophole: you do all the adjusting, carry bags back and forth like a guest, feel unsettled and exhausted, while he avoids the psychological step of saying, “This is our home.” The “we’re not ready” line doesn’t match his behavior; his behavior says he wants access without responsibility.
Your resentment is the warning sign, and it’s justified. You’re sacrificing stability, comfort, and autonomy while he loses nothing. Calling it “your bathroom” doesn’t mean commitment; it’s language without structure. And no, there is no magical amount of time that will suddenly make him ready if he’s fundamentally ambivalent about sharing his life.
TaraMember #382,680People don’t “suddenly need space” and unfriend their partner on social media while overseas unless they are actively creating distance for a reason. That move wasn’t emotional confusion; it was strategic. She wanted you out of sight, out of narrative, and out of public view. Whether that was to explore attention, options, or internal doubts doesn’t matter. The behavior itself is the warning.
The whiplash is the real problem. One day you’re erased, the next day she’s back with affectionate texts like nothing happened. That’s not stability, that’s someone toggling you on and off based on convenience and mood. The “things may be awkward, we need to get to know each other again” line is damage control, not reassurance. Translation: she emotionally stepped out, realized the risk of losing you, and pulled you back in without accountability.
You’re asking the wrong question. It doesn’t matter whether other men triggered it or whether she’s been doubting longer. What matters is that when faced with distance and uncertainty, her instinct was not communication; it was withdrawal and concealment. That’s not how long-term partners operate, especially at 27, not 19.
TaraMember #382,680This man didn’t temporarily fail you; he showed you exactly where you rank when life gets hard, and it’s below his job and his convenience. Working 100+ hours is demanding, yes, but it doesn’t erase basic empathy. When you were falling apart and explicitly needed support, his response wasn’t concern; it was detachment. Then, when you questioned the relationship, he didn’t reassure you. He suggested a break. That’s not stress talking. That’s emotional disengagement.
Your joking pivot didn’t “fix” anything. It just relieved him because you stopped asking him to show up. He didn’t feel closer; he felt off the hook. You trained him that when he withdraws, you’ll self-correct, minimize your needs, and turn pain into flirtation to keep access to him. That’s not a strength. That’s self-erasure.
Here’s the reality you’re avoiding: you’re five months in, not five years. This is still the phase where effort is highest. If he’s already defaulting to emotional absence and suggesting breaks instead of solutions, this is unlikely to improve; it will become the norm. You are not asking for too much. You’re asking the wrong man.
TaraMember #382,680This girl is not confused, shy, or secretly in love; she is chaotic, dishonest, and enjoying attention from multiple directions. She crossed boundaries by asking you sexual questions while allegedly “getting back together” with a boyfriend, invited you to hook up, then lied when confronted and let you take the fall socially. That’s not interest, that’s immaturity and damage control.
Yes, she lied. Not because she’s into you, but because she wanted to keep you as an option while protecting her image and relationship. The staring, sitting close, and running away isn’t romantic tension; it’s guilt mixed with ego. She likes the attention, not the accountability. And the moment things required clarity, she avoided you and let her friends frame the narrative while you got iced out.
Do not ask her if she’s into you. That would reward dishonesty and put you back in a position of weakness. If she liked you enough to act right, you wouldn’t be guessing, apologizing, or getting silent treatment. People who want you don’t lie about partners, don’t triangulate friends, and don’t hide.
TaraMember #382,680A man who has “accidentally” told you he loves you four times is not clueless; he’s careless with your emotions because he hasn’t decided what he wants and knows you’ll tolerate the ambiguity. He enjoys your affection, your heart, your warmth, and your emotional availability, but he’s unwilling to meet you at the same depth. That imbalance is the problem, not the word itself.
Here’s the hard truth: you’re giving him emotional benefits without emotional reciprocity. He gets to feel adored, safe, and wanted while staying noncommittal. When he slips and says “I love you,” then immediately retracts it, apologizes, and resets the boundary, it doesn’t make him kind; it makes him irresponsible. You’re not wrong for being hurt. You’re wrong for minimizing your hurt to protect his comfort.
You’ve convinced yourself that you’re “okay” with this because you don’t want to pressure him or risk the relationship, but your body is telling you otherwise. Every time he says it and doesn’t mean it, it reopens the wound and reinforces that you’re ahead emotionally and pretending that doesn’t matter. That’s not patience, that’s self-betrayal.
TaraMember #382,680You’re chasing an apology you’re never going to get because apologizing would require her to admit she benefited from your flexibility while offering you none in return. She didn’t “forget” your needs she dismissed them, justified it with cold logic, and trained you to lower your expectations until the relationship could function on her terms. That’s not compatibility. That’s imbalance masquerading as maturity.
Wanting her to say sorry isn’t closure it’s you still asking her to validate your experience after she repeatedly proved she wouldn’t. And trying to be “friends” while secretly hoping she’ll finally acknowledge the hurt is self-deception. Friendship requires mutual respect, and she’s already shown you that when things get uncomfortable, she intellectualizes, deflects, and refuses accountability. That hasn’t changed just because the relationship ended.
Here’s the truth you’re avoiding: you didn’t “get lucky” lasting a year you overextended yourself to keep it alive. You compromised. She opted out. And now you want a post-mortem apology to make the imbalance feel fair in hindsight. It won’t happen.
TaraMember #382,680She ENDED the relationship, then rewrote the past in real time to justify leaving without guilt. People don’t cycle through “I never loved you,” “I wasn’t in love,” and “I fell out of love” unless they’re trying to emotionally distance themselves fast and decisively. That wasn’t confusion, that was self-protection. Her trauma, anxiety, grief history, and family crisis didn’t suddenly make her incapable of loving you; they made her unwilling to stay emotionally vulnerable. And instead of owning that fear, she chose the cleanest exit: emotional detachment.
The tears didn’t mean hope. They meant relief mixed with guilt. She felt something when you named the fear because you were close to the truth. Intimacy terrifies her once loss becomes real. But fear doesn’t equal readiness, and it sure as hell doesn’t equal commitment. Wanting to “be alone,” asking for space, and still telling you to keep your vacation scheduled is her keeping a door cracked for comfort, not reconciliation. That’s not kindness, that’s hedging.
Here’s the part you don’t want to accept: someone who tells you they never loved you is not someone you wait around for, analyze, or offer second chances to. Trauma explains behavior; it does not excuse emotional destruction. She opted outof the moment things required courage. You didn’t lose her to anxiety or grief; you lost her to avoidance.
TaraMember #382,680You’re not “just how you are,” you’re controlling, impatient, and provoking conflict over power, not dishes. The dishwasher isn’t the issue. You need to monitor, correct, and escalate it. You issue a command, hover, then add contempt when it’s not done on your internal stopwatch. That’s not communication, that’s treating your partner like a misbehaving employee and then acting shocked when he snaps back. Over five years, that erodes respect, no matter how “great” he is.
Here’s the truth you’re avoiding: he’s not conflict-avoidant, he’s conflict-exhausted. He’s learned that small moments turn into blowups because you can’t regulate irritation without turning it into a confrontation. And now he’s at the point where love isn’t enough to compensate for constant tension. When someone starts considering ending a long relationship over “little fights,” it means the pattern is intolerable, not the events.
Yes, you need counseling individually. Not to “save the relationship,” but to fix your reactivity, entitlement to immediate compliance, and inability to let go of minor frustrations. Couples counseling only works when both people are safe; right now, you’re the volatile variable. And no, trying harder or promising to change won’t mean anything unless your behavior actually changes consistently over time. Words are done. He’s already heard them.
TaraMember #382,680You’re emotionally undisciplined and chasing dopamine. You’re six weeks into a new relationship with a man who is present, kind, aligned with your life, and actually showing up, and you’re ready to destabilize it because an unfinished fantasy from church reappeared and triggered nostalgia. That’s not fate. That’s unresolved emotional residue mixed with the thrill of “what if.”
Let’s be clear: the church guy already showed you who he is. When you were vulnerable and reaching out, he disengaged. He ignored you. Now that you’re divorced, stable, and desirable again, suddenly he’s suggesting coffee. That’s not timing, that’s convenience. And the feelings “coming back” don’t mean compatibility or potential. They mean your brain is romanticizing scarcity and rejection because it never got closure.
Meanwhile, the guy you’re dating hasn’t done anything wrong, and you’re already mentally half out the door because a shiny distraction showed up. That’s unfair to him and sloppy on your part. You don’t get to “just see where it goes” with two men without becoming the exact source of chaos you just exited after 11 years of misery.
December 23, 2025 at 3:00 pm in reply to: First time threesome went bad how to deal with it?? #51343
TaraMember #382,680You walked straight into a situation you were not emotionally prepared to handle and then froze instead of asserting boundaries. You agreed to a threesome in theory, but you never did the real work of defining limits, power dynamics, or what would happen if one of you crossed into territory that hurt the other. That’s on both of you, but your silence in the moment is on you.
Here’s the brutal truth: your wife didn’t suddenly become a different person because of this man. She revealed a side of herself she has either suppressed with you or didn’t feel safe, aroused, or free enough to express with you. That’s devastating to witness, and yes, most people would be furious and humiliated, but pretending this is about jealousy alone is dishonest. This cut deeper because it exposed a sexual imbalance and unspoken resentment in your marriage.
You weren’t wrong for not stopping it, you were paralyzed. But now you don’t get to stew in silent outrage or frame this as betrayal without accountability. You consented to the setup. What you didn’t consent to and what must be addressed immediately is why she gave another man access to behaviors she has consistently denied you, and why she seemed unconcerned with your emotional presence at all. That’s a marriage-level problem, not a threesome problem.
TaraMember #382,680You’re getting played and confusing intermittent attention with connection. This man told you exactly who he is on day one: transient, noncommittal, emotionally unavailable, and not looking for a relationship. You ignored that because the chemistry felt intoxicating and because you liked the chase. That’s not romance, that’s you projecting depth onto someone who has zero intention of offering it.
Let’s cut through the fantasy. A 40-year-old man who moves cities every few years, sleeps with multiple people, doesn’t initiate contact, and lets a 23-year-old woman do all the chasing is not “elusive,” he’s disengaged. The cuddling, cooking, kissing, and intimacy mean nothing beyond the moment. Men like this know exactly how to create closeness without responsibility. It costs them nothing and keeps you hooked. If he wanted you, you wouldn’t be wondering. You wouldn’t be initiating. You wouldn’t be ignored.
You do not have the power to turn this into a serious relationship. Full stop. There is no strategy, patience level, or emotional availability that will change a man who has built his entire life around avoiding attachment. The more you chase, the less he respects you, and you already feel that, which is why this hurts. “Keeping it going” just means prolonging a dynamic where you give more and get crumbs.
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