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Natalie NoahMember #382,516What’s happening here is less about the fight itself and more about a buildup he hasn’t known how to express. When someone suddenly pulls out every past argument, stops engaging, and retreats to the couch for weeks, that’s usually a sign they’ve been stewing on unresolved resentment for a long time. It doesn’t always mean they want to end things. sometimes it just means they’ve hit emotional burnout and don’t have the tools to repair the cycle. When people don’t know how to communicate their limits, they withdraw instead. So when he says he needs “space,” he really means he needs an emotional reset, not necessarily physical distance. Living together complicates it, but emotional space can still happen through quieter interactions, less pressure to talk, and giving him room to decompress without interpreting his withdrawal as a final decision.
But there’s also a real risk here, three weeks of couch sleeping and coldness is a sign the relationship is stuck in a rut neither of you can solve with silence. At some point, you deserve clarity. whether that’s him coming back to the relationship with effort, or admitting he’s checking out. Playful connection, like April suggested, can sometimes break the ice, because it interrupts the cycle of heaviness. But if that doesn’t create even a small shift, the next step is a calm, direct question: “Are you planning to come back to the relationship with me, or are you already halfway out?” It’s scary, but it brings truth to the surface. And the truth gives you power either to rebuild together or to stop living in uncertainty that’s hurting you.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516What stands out most in this whole situation is how deeply fear is driving everything. The original writer isn’t reacting to the boyfriend in the present moment, she’s reacting to the history, the two breakups, the uncertainty, and the dread of being abandoned again. That fear makes her read every silence as rejection, every short text as disinterest, and every boundary as a threat. Meanwhile, he’s overwhelmed by his career falling apart, and when someone’s identity is tied to their work, failure feels like personal collapse. When someone is drowning emotionally, they don’t have the capacity to sit and comfort someone else too even if they love them. That mismatch in timing creates misunderstanding instead of connection.
The more she responds from fear, the more she pushes him further away. Not because she’s wrong to want reassurance, but because he’s in a place where even simple emotional needs can feel like pressure. When someone is depressed, ashamed, or questioning their own worth, even a loving message can feel like “I’m failing you.” In that state, withdrawing becomes a coping mechanism. What she sees as coldness is really him shutting down to protect himself from feeling worse.
The part about asking to see his phone is important. Not because she’s “crazy” for wanting clarity anyone would. But because trying to control the situation only escalates the very instability she fears. If he is texting other women, the real issue isn’t the texting, it’s the deeper disconnection. And if he isn’t, then her suspicion still damages trust. Either way, focusing on surveillance instead of the emotional dynamic never moves a relationship in a healthier direction. She would get farther by returning to the role she wants to play in the relationship: supportive, calm, grounded not panicked, reactive, or investigative.
At the core, this whole thing is a crossroads: either she can step back, breathe, and respond to his crisis with empathy… or she can continue reacting to her fears and unintentionally accelerate another breakup. And it’s true if he truly doesn’t want the relationship, nothing she does will stop that. But if he’s just overwhelmed and trying to survive his own stress, then the person who can help bring him closer is the one who makes him feel safe, not scrutinized. If she can separate her anxiety from his crisis, there’s still space for the relationship to rebalance.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516You genuinely want this relationship to work, and you’re exhausted from feeling like you can’t trust what you’re being told. That combination is painful wanting closeness but being on guard for omissions creates a lot of low-grade anxiety that eats at joy. Your boyfriend’s pattern of avoiding conflict by not fully disclosing things may feel easier for him in the moment, but it’s leaving you to do all the emotional labor of policing the relationship. That’s not sustainable, and your feelings about it are valid.
Practically, you’re already doing important work by naming the difference between harmless “meatloaf” white lies and dodging things that matter to you. Now the next step is a concrete agreement: sit down (when you’re both calm) and define together what counts as a “no-go” omission. Use specific examples strip clubs, meeting up with an ex, hiding who you were with and agree on transparency behaviors (e.g., “If I go out with coworkers and drinks are involved, I’ll text you a quick heads-up”). Make the consequence clear too: if those agreements are broken, what will happen? Not as punishment, but as a boundary to protect your trust.
At the same time, give him a path to change that doesn’t feel like shame. Since he avoids heavy talks, offer a compromise: fewer, shorter check-ins about the relationship (so it doesn’t feel like interrogation), plus one concrete trust-building ritual weekly “how are we doing?” check-ins, sharing calendars for nights out, or a transparency app if that feels right. Celebrate small wins: when he is honest, acknowledge it. Trust rebuilds meter-by-meter, not overnight.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516This is a deeply emotional and sensitive situation for both partners. On the surface, it’s about sex and orgasms, but underneath, it’s really about trust, vulnerability, and emotional intimacy. The fact that your wife has never achieved orgasm with you, despite your consistent efforts and attentiveness, is understandably painful, especially when she reveals that she could with her ex-husband. However, this isn’t necessarily a reflection of your worth or skill as a partner, it seems more about psychological barriers she’s developed due to past trauma, hurt, and mistrust. Her honesty, even if delayed, is a positive step in bridging that gap, because it opens the door for more authentic intimacy and communication going forward.
It’s also important to separate your emotional reaction from the sexual aspect itself. Feeling hurt, insecure, or inadequate is a natural human response when confronted with such information, and those feelings are valid. At the same time, it’s essential to recognize that her inability to reach orgasm with you isn’t inherently a judgment on your performance. it’s intertwined with her internal barriers, experiences with her ex, and long-standing trust issues. It’s a situation where compassion, patience, and open dialogue are more productive than self-blame. She’s sharing her inner struggles with you now, which suggests she trusts you enough to begin addressing them together, even if progress is gradual.
Practically, the path forward involves continued experimentation, communication, and reassurance. You’ve already demonstrated thoughtfulness through foreplay, toys, and attentiveness, which is excellent. What’s key now is to maintain that supportive environment while encouraging her to explore her own pleasure openly with you, without pressure or expectation. Intimacy is a partnership, and focusing on connection rather than solely the endpoint of orgasm may reduce performance anxiety for both of you and create a more fulfilling sexual experience overall.
Consider the bigger picture: this situation is as much about emotional closeness as it is about sex. Your relationship has a strong foundation, and this challenge, while painful, can strengthen your bond if approached with empathy, patience, and ongoing honest communication. Shifting the focus from comparison with her past to building a unique and safe space together can help both of you feel closer and more connected. Healing and growth in sexual intimacy often mirror emotional intimacy, and your dedication to understanding her experience while addressing your own feelings is a strong step toward that.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516You’re in a delicate spot where love, timing, and life stressors are all colliding. He clearly cares about you, as shown by his messages and his emotional vulnerability, but he’s also processing major life transitions: leaving the military, adjusting to a new home, and managing past relationship experiences. His need for space isn’t a rejection it’s a way for him to sort out fears and uncertainties without making impulsive decisions that could impact both of you. Right now, he’s balancing love for you with fear of losing stability or feeling trapped, and that internal struggle is affecting how he communicates.
Your desire to support him is natural, but it’s important to recognize that you can’t fix or rush someone else’s emotional processing. Sending small, thoughtful messages or gestures without expecting immediate interaction creates a sense of presence and reassurance without overwhelming him. This approach respects his need for space while keeping the connection alive. It also gives you a sense of agency; instead of being paralyzed by worry, you’re actively nurturing the relationship in a way that’s safe for both of you.
The key here is patience and clarity. When he returns, it will be crucial to have open conversations about what you both want and need, including boundaries and timelines. This pause can actually strengthen your bond if handled with care showing him that you’re supportive and understanding, but also emotionally grounded. Right now, the balance between holding space and staying emotionally present is tricky, but leaning into calm, consistent support without pressure is the most constructive way to maintain the connection while he works through his fears.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516This situation highlights how someone’s personal burdens can completely affect their ability to maintain a relationship. She clearly cares about you, but with her mom’s illness, financial stress, work pressures, and the possibility of pregnancy, she’s under immense emotional weight. When people are that overwhelmed, withdrawing or going MIA is often their way of coping not a reflection of their feelings toward you. It’s her way of protecting herself from more stress, even though she clearly has strong feelings for you.
Your frustration is completely understandable. You’re invested, caring, and trying to be supportive, and it hurts when your effort isn’t met with consistent communication. But this isn’t about you failing or doing something wrong. This is about boundaries both hers and yours. After repeated patterns of missed plans and lack of clarity, it’s reasonable to step back. She hasn’t given a clear answer about critical matters, like the potential pregnancy, and at some point, prioritizing your own emotional well-being is necessary.
The bigger lesson here is about timing and emotional availability. Chemistry is important, but so is stability and consistency, and she’s not able to offer that right now. Continuing to wait indefinitely or chase answers that may never come could harm you emotionally. It’s okay to let this go while still holding compassion for her situation. Protecting yourself in this way doesn’t make you unkind it makes you wise. Going forward, being clear about intentions, observing patterns, and knowing your own limits will help you avoid investing deeply in someone who isn’t ready to meet you halfway.
December 12, 2025 at 10:18 pm in reply to: A girl I really like uses the "I want to be friends excuse" #50399
Natalie NoahMember #382,516Your frustration is completely understandable. You were investing emotional energy into someone who clearly wasn’t on the same page as you. From the beginning, it seems like she had unresolved issues from past relationships, and you were trying to cheer her up. That’s very kind of you, but it also left you vulnerable. She was likely still processing her own feelings, and your kindness and attention weren’t necessarily seen as a foundation for a committed relationship. It’s important to recognize that her actions saying “let’s just be friends” while pursuing someone else aren’t about you being “less” or unlucky; it’s about compatibility and timing. Sometimes, people aren’t ready to give what you’re looking for, and that has nothing to do with your value.
April’s advice really hits on an important point: dating is a process of discovery. You were interpreting hanging out and shared experiences as a “date,” but she didn’t see it the same way. That disconnect is not uncommon, and it shows the importance of clear communication asking, “Would you like to go out on a date with me?” sets expectations and avoids misunderstanding. Also, your hesitance to show affection like hugging or initiating physical closeness while understandable, might have contributed to ambiguity about your intentions. Women, like men, respond to emotional and physical cues, and holding back too much can make it difficult for the other person to feel the depth of your interest.
I want to address your worry about “bad luck” with women. It’s not about luck. it’s about learning and refining your approach. You were interacting with people who may not have been ready or willing to reciprocate in the way you hoped. The key takeaway here is to meet people with clarity, confidence, and boundaries. Know what you want, communicate it clearly, and take risks to show your interest, while also being aware that not everyone will match your feelings and that’s okay. Each experience gives you more insight into what to look for in someone who truly values and reciprocates your attention. The focus should shift from feeling used to learning how to identify mutual interest and connection early on, so your efforts are spent wisely.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516Your girlfriend’s behavior signals a pattern of immaturity and attention-seeking. From the beginning, you noted signs like jealousy over your compliments, asking for passwords, and then inconsistent reactions to flirting or provocative situations. Combined with her public display with the male friend, it strongly suggests that her goal is to elicit attention and validation not to nurture a healthy, trusting, and monogamous relationship. It doesn’t necessarily matter if she has cheated or not; the bigger issue is the lack of respect and clear commitment toward you. That’s a foundational problem, because relationships thrive on mutual respect and trust.
The dynamic with her male friend complicates things but doesn’t excuse her behavior. Even if he instigated certain actions or jokes, the responsibility for her choices lies with her. She allowed pictures to be shared that blurred boundaries in a committed relationship and didn’t set clear limits. Her refusal to clarify the friendship publicly despite your repeated requests shows she is not prioritizing your feelings or the integrity of your relationship. It’s not about whether she’s romantically interested in him or “just friends” it’s about her disrespecting the trust you two are supposed to share.
The age and life experience gap matters here. You are 29, and she’s 18, which is a huge difference in emotional maturity and relationship experience. This gap explains some of her impulsive, attention-seeking behavior, as well as her inconsistent understanding of commitment. She may not yet know what she truly wants, and the way she expresses herself through teasing, provocative pictures, or lies is a reflection of her immaturity, not of any deep affection or loyalty toward you.
You haven’t done anything fundamentally wrong, aside from perhaps being too tolerant of her disrespect. Maintaining a relationship with someone who doesn’t respect your boundaries, even after repeated discussions, doesn’t improve the situation. it reinforces her behavior. The way to “earn respect” from a woman isn’t by punishing or rewarding her like training a pet; it’s by setting clear boundaries, communicating expectations, and walking away when those boundaries are violated. Respect is earned through mutual accountability, not games or manipulations.
Regarding exes, past relationships, and early dating: it’s normal for people to hide or downplay their history, but repeated lying is a red flag. You can’t build trust if honesty isn’t present. Similarly, if someone shows disrespect even before a relationship begins, it’s wise to take it seriously. it’s often a preview of how they will treat you later. While life experience can help someone mature, that doesn’t obligate you to wait around. You can consider giving someone a second chance in the future only if you see consistent growth and accountability, not just potential.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516You’ve invested so much emotionally in this relationship through all its ups and downs, the losses in your life, the shared grief with him and his family. That kind of connection is profound, and it’s no wonder you feel so drawn to him, even when the relationship has been unhealthy. Your attachment isn’t just about him. it’s also about the comfort, history, and the intense emotions that you’ve lived through together. That makes letting go extremely hard.
At the same time, the behavior he’s shown is deeply concerning and abusive in subtle and overt ways. The incident with the threesome request, the relentless comparison, and the vindictive tone show a lack of respect for your boundaries, emotional safety, and feelings. When someone consistently disregards your emotional well-being and manipulates or punishes you for past actions, it signals a pattern that will not serve your long-term happiness. His age or your history doesn’t change that it’s about character and respect, and sadly, he’s not showing it.
Your struggle with letting go is understandable, but it’s also rooted in the way the relationship has become a default for you. April’s “lazy” comment, though harsh, is pointing to a truth: sometimes we stay in unhealthy dynamics because facing life alone, with all its uncertainties, feels scarier than staying in familiar chaos. Your fear of being single, your new career, and the upheaval you’ve faced these are all real pressures but they don’t justify staying in a relationship that continually harms you.
About your belongings and closure: the practical advice is perfect and necessary. Don’t involve him if you can avoid it. If hiring movers isn’t feasible, charities, donation pick-ups, or trusted acquaintances are practical ways to remove your items. The emotional tie isn’t in the boxes or furniture. it’s in your mind and heart. Removing those things from his home physically helps break the cycle and allows you to reclaim your space mentally and emotionally.
The path forward is about reclaiming your autonomy, your safety, and your emotional peace. Cut off contact, focus on building your new life, and immerse yourself in positive, self-affirming activities. Your grief, your fears, your desire for love they are valid but love that harms you repeatedly isn’t the love you deserve. It’s time to center yourself, give yourself the care you need, and open the door for relationships rooted in respect, trust, and genuine companionship. Healing here is possible, even if it feels terrifying.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516What you experienced is actually more common than most people realize performance anxiety in the moment can be completely separate from attraction or desire. It sounds like your emotions were all over the place: you went from seeing her as a long shot to suddenly feeling loved by her and welcomed into your family, all in a short span. That’s a lot for anyone to process, and adding alcohol and the pressure to perform sexually only compounds it. Her reaction feeling hurt or confused is understandable because she was anticipating an intimate connection that didn’t happen, but it doesn’t mean she stopped caring about you or that the relationship is over.
Whether she gets over it depends a lot on your follow-up and how you communicate. Honest conversation about your emotions, the pressure you felt, and how much you care for her can go a long way in restoring her trust and understanding. People who are emotionally invested often forgive moments like this, especially when the attraction and emotional bond are strong, which it clearly is here. It’s likely you will get another chance if you approach it with patience, openness, and reassurance that your connection isn’t defined by this one moment.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516This breakup seems less about your worth or the quality of the relationship and more about timing, stress, and life circumstances. Your boyfriend was juggling a new job, long-distance challenges, and the legal and emotional pressures of marriage paperwork all at once. That’s a lot for anyone to handle, and sometimes when people feel overwhelmed, they pull back not necessarily because they stopped caring, but because their capacity to manage both life stress and a committed relationship feels impossible at that moment. It doesn’t invalidate the love or connection you shared, but it does explain why he suddenly shifted gears.
It’s natural to feel blindsided, especially because he had previously initiated the marriage conversation and even completed paperwork with you. That contrast pushing for commitment one moment and stepping away the next can feel like a betrayal, but in reality, it’s often a reflection of internal conflict rather than manipulation. He might have started to realize the practical and emotional challenges of merging your lives under the pressures of a new job and distance, and that realization frightened him. Stress can make people fixate on potential negatives, even when the positives are strong, which seems to be what happened here.
April’s advice about taking care of yourself and focusing on your own emotional recovery is crucial. Right now, you can’t control his decisions, and trying to do so may drain you further. Giving yourself time to process the breakup, staying connected to supportive friends and family, and engaging in activities that nurture you will help you regain emotional clarity. This period of self-care isn’t about giving up. it’s about strengthening yourself so that whether he returns or not, you’re grounded and resilient.
There’s a chance that once his stress eases, he may realize how much he values the relationship and your partnership. But there’s no guarantee, and it’s important not to put your life on pause waiting for him. The healthiest approach is to accept the uncertainty for now, while keeping the door open to possibilities in a balanced way. Whether he comes back or you move forward, the lessons you’ve learned about communication, patience, and understanding under stress will serve you in every relationship you have. You’ve built a strong foundation of love, and even if the timing isn’t right now, that foundation isn’t lost, it’s just on pause.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516This relationship is a tough one because it’s rooted in a history of broken trust. From what you’ve shared, it’s clear that you genuinely care for her and want to be with her, but past lies whether small or large have left deep marks. Trust isn’t something that can be rebuilt overnight; it’s earned slowly and consistently over time. Even though you’ve made efforts to show honesty and change, her inability to move past the previous betrayals isn’t necessarily a reflection of your worth or effort. it’s about her emotional readiness and capacity to heal from those experiences.
April’s advice emphasizes something really important: at a certain point, you can do all the right things, but if the other person isn’t ready or willing to trust again, the relationship can’t move forward. It’s a painful reality, but accepting that is necessary to protect your own emotional health. Right now, maintaining contact while she’s undecided is keeping you in a limbo emotionally available to her but without the reassurance that the relationship is reciprocal. That limbo can prevent both of you from gaining clarity.
Taking space, as suggested, is actually a strategic and compassionate move for both of you. By stepping back completely and clarifying that your interest is strictly in a romantic relationship, you give her room to process her feelings and assess whether she truly wants to be with you or not. This is about creating healthy boundaries, not punishing her. It also gives you the chance to heal, reflect, and regain a sense of agency rather than being caught in cycles of hope and disappointment.
The “six-month” guideline is flexible and should be treated as a minimum suggestion rather than a strict rule. It’s about giving time for emotions to settle and trust to rebuild in her mind. But more importantly, this time apart allows you to see the relationship clearly from a distance, without being pulled into immediate emotional reactions. If she reaches a point where she’s ready, then you can reconnect with clarity and mutual desire. If not, you’ll be in a better position to move forward without lingering uncertainty or hurt.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516The dynamic with this first guy is a classic example of blurry boundaries disguised as friendship. You’ve invested time, energy, intimacy, and emotions into someone who was clear from the start that he wasn’t committed to monogamy. You tried to set boundaries asking him to be honest but when he broke them, the frustration and hurt you felt were entirely valid. The difficult part here is that you were hoping for honesty without losing the connection, but the reality is that someone unwilling to honor your boundaries isn’t equipped to provide the trust or respect you deserve.
April is really pointing out that the power is in your hands now. Once he’s demonstrated dishonesty, you get to decide what you will accept moving forward. Reaching out again or waiting for him to return is essentially giving him the option to continue patterns that hurt you. Men often return after disappearing, not because they’ve had a change of heart, but because the path of least resistance seeing someone without dealing with the consequences is easier for them. That doesn’t mean you owe them engagement; it’s your choice to maintain your dignity and boundaries.
What’s striking is your self-awareness you recognize that this isn’t about drama or being controlling; it’s about wanting honesty and care. The pain comes from a mismatch between what you need in a relationship and what he is capable of giving. Being used to excusing behavior because “he’s single” doesn’t erase your feelings or invalidate your need for respect. April is right: friends don’t have sex and then lie to each other. If monogamy and honesty are priorities for you, then this relationship or “friendship” doesn’t align with what you truly want.
The scenario is another layer of clarity. If someone doesn’t initiate, doesn’t invest effort, and only responds when prompted, it signals low interest. You’re noticing a pattern: when someone truly wants a connection, they show up consistently, communicate openly, and make you feel valued. Your awareness here is your compass. Both situations whether the unfaithful friend or the hesitant online suitor highlight that your energy is precious and should be directed toward people who actively meet you halfway, rather than those who leave you chasing them.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516You’re experiencing a deep emotional conflict between the person you love and the part of him you just discovered. It’s completely natural to feel disturbed, even shocked, when something about a partner’s sexual interests surfaces unexpectedly especially when it’s extreme or feels morally or emotionally unsettling to you. The fact that he’s normally gentle and loving adds to the dissonance; your mind is struggling to reconcile the “sweet boyfriend” you know with the “harsh, sadistic porn” you stumbled upon. That tension can feel confusing, almost like two different people exist in the same body.
April’s advice is solid: avoiding the conversation only keeps you stuck in this state of unease. By shutting down the discussion initially, you’ve bottled up your feelings, which can fester into anxiety, resentment, or distrust. If you truly care about him and your relationship, the healthiest step is to create space to talk openly calmly, respectfully, and without judgment. You don’t need to approve of or participate in his fantasies; you just need to understand them, where they come from, and how they fit into your relationship. This is about information and clarity, not forcing him to change overnight.
The goal here isn’t to shame him or provoke defensiveness, but to learn more about him and see how compatible your boundaries are. You can frame the conversation around your feelings what shocked you, why it made you uncomfortable while listening to him explain his perspective. Sometimes sexual fantasies are just that: fantasies that may never translate into reality. What matters is your ability to process this knowledge, communicate honestly, and decide whether this is something you can accept in your partner while maintaining your own comfort and safety. In short, clarity and mutual understanding are the only ways forward, rather than leaving it unresolved and letting it eat at you.
Natalie NoahMember #382,516You’re entangled in a situation that is inherently impossible to resolve the way you want. You’re pursuing a married woman, and while she’s polite and engages with you, she is consistently setting boundaries appropriate to her situation. The tension and frustration you feel come not from her “playing” you, but from the conflict between your desires and the reality of her life. You’re expecting emotional availability from someone who cannot give it without compromising her marriage and that is never going to satisfy the longing you’re feeling.
April’s advice keeps returning to the same core truth: this isn’t about her being manipulative, confused, or ego-boosted. She’s behaving consistently within the boundaries she’s chosen being friendly but cautious, engaging but never crossing the line. The reason you feel “played” is because your expectations of openness, attention, and responsiveness are incompatible with her marital commitment. You are holding onto the hope that she will act differently than she has clearly indicated she can, and that’s creating the endless cycle of frustration.
One of the biggest lessons here is about personal responsibility. Shai, you have the power to decide where your energy goes. No one is forcing you to continue chatting daily or to invest emotional effort in a situation that gives you stress and no real fulfillment. The boundary you are waiting for from her complete clarity or a hard stop is something you ultimately must enforce yourself. Stopping the personal engagement is not about controlling her, it’s about protecting your own heart and sanity.
From what you’ve written, it’s clear she is not confused she is decisive about her boundaries and her marriage. The confusion is yours, and it stems from your attachment to the idea of what could be rather than what actually is. She’s not obligated to give you clarity or to make you feel comfortable with her limits. The more you chase that clarity from her, the more frustrated you’ll feel. Acceptance here means recognizing that the relationship you hope for is impossible and shifting your focus to relationships where mutual desire, availability, and boundaries align.
The healthiest next step for you is emotional disengagement. That doesn’t mean you have to be hostile or cut her out completely if professional interaction is necessary, but it does mean stopping daily private chats, releasing the expectation of “more,” and redirecting your energy toward people who can reciprocate the attention and connection you want. In essence, you need to stop chasing someone whose life cannot allow what you want, and give yourself the freedom to connect with people who actually can. That is how you get out of the maze you’ve described and regain peace in your own life.
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