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November 1, 2015 at 6:13 pm #7095
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ParticipantI went through a horrible breakup in June of this year and decided to put myself back out there in July to distract myself from my depression. My friends encouraged me to use the dating app Tinder to see if I could find someone to hangout with that I was interested in. Well, I thought it was a joke at first and only went on one date to just put myself out there. I had no interest in the guy at all. Of course, it was a disaster. A few weeks later I tried again out of boredom and started talking with a guy I found really attractive and funny. We took our conversation to texting and started talking all the time. After about a week we decided to meet up and finally get to see each other in person. We went and had coffee and talked for a few hours. It was great. We had great chemistry, we were able to talk without any awkward pauses, and I felt comfortable with him. As we started to leave he kissed me and told me he had a great time. We ended up hanging out again the next day and then it went from there. I’ve met his mom, aunt, and uncle, and he has met my family as well, we hangout at least 3-5 times per week. We go on dates as often as we can. We have opened up about our issues with anxiety, depression, past relationships, childhood, etc. I’ve told him things nobody else knows about me and he did the same. He doesn’t change how he acts in public around me, he still treats me the same. Opens doors, will hold my hand, and do things I want to do. I’m at his house more than my own. He asks me to come over and spend time with him even if we have no plans of going anywhere or doing anything. Just being together. When we first met, we both had just gotten out of serious relationships that had damaged us and we weren’t looking for anything serious. We made that clear pretty early on. But it’s been three months now and I’m starting to think I do want to see where things go with us beyond what we have now. We haven’t had the talk about being exclusive or anything. We’ve just taken things one day at a time. He’s made comments before about how if you spend all your spare time with someone and go hook up with someone else, you’re pretty shady. He asks me all the time to stay the night with him, says I need to just bring over my PJ’s since I’m always there and maybe I just need a drawer at his place. My toothbrush is on the counter in his bathroom and has been for weeks now. My things are all around his house and he has never said anything about it. What we have is basically a relationship, but we have never had an actual talk about it.
So my question is, how do I approach the subject of dating? Are you still using Tinder? Are we exclusive? What do you want in the future? I would love to ask all of these questions, but I don’t want to come across as insane. I know guys can get scared if a girl seems too into things before they are and I don’t want to scare him off.
[edit] I forgot to add that I am 26 and he is 32.
November 2, 2015 at 4:47 pm #31133April Masini
KeymasterIt sounds like he’s into you, and that’s great news. 🙂 And since you’d like to know how committed he is, but you don’t want to scare him away by being too needy, you have to focus on not having “the talk” while steering conversation into a direction where he gets to bring this up first. Guys want to be the ones to chase, and if he feels like he’s asking you to be exclusive, and you say yes, he’s going to feel good about himself because he’s chased, he’s won and he’s accomplished.😉 So let him have that win by not taking it from with “the talk” just because you’re feeling anxious.🙂 If you want, you can playful ask him if he thinks you should take your dating profile offline. Or, you can broach the subject more generally, by, in a good moment, suggesting you write a thank you note to Tinder for introducing him to you!
🙂 That might get the conversation going. If it does, you can tell him that you didn’t want to be presumptuous by taking the profile down and assuming more than there is, but you also didn’t want to insult him by leaving it up and having him get the wrong idea. That’s a good way to make him think you’re trying to be polite, when you’re really trying to get information!November 2, 2015 at 9:54 pm #31136123waterbottle
ParticipantThank you so much for your advice! I will be seeing him tomorrow once I’m off work and I’ll remind myself not to force anything and to just relax and go with the flow of things. Try to playfully mention the dating profiles and see where that goes. 🙂 November 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm #31145April Masini
KeymasterSounds good! 😀 If you have any more questions, please ask. I’m here.🙂 November 3, 2015 at 7:48 pm #31151123waterbottle
ParticipantWell, I didn’t go over there tonight. He has been a little standoffish the last couple of days. Before I posted this on here I sort of told him that I liked him and all, but didn’t go into detail about anything. He said the same. But since then, I have been getting mixed signals from him. When I’m in the mood to talk/text, he isn’t. He is very short and just says he doesn’t feel like texting. Which, he wasn’t a big texter to begin with so I have sort of gotten used to it. But then this morning he was texting me a lot. So I asked if we were going to hangout today and he just said, “Dunno. I’ll let you know.” and then we didn’t really talk afterwards. And the conversation sort of died and we didn’t hangout. I’m not sure what is going on. I don’t know how to approach this. Do I step back and just let him decide what happens next? November 4, 2015 at 1:42 am #31161April Masini
KeymasterDefinitely let him take the lead. Be upbeat, fun and sexy. And see how things go. If you let let him take the lead, then you’ll have a much better idea of how he feels about things. 😉 November 7, 2015 at 3:53 pm #31178123waterbottle
ParticipantThings did not turn out how I had thought they would. He became distant and short with me. Didn’t want to talk as much as we used to, kept blowing off planned hangouts. Then out of nowhere I get a text that basically says he isn’t ready for a relationship and doesn’t want a relationship with me. He says he’s been chatting with other girls via text, but nothing serious. Then he says that if us “hooking up” is going to be an issue, maybe we shouldn’t do that anymore and maybe we should be just friends. Ok, here is what confuses me. What we were doing was NEVER referred to as just “hooking up.” Ever. When we went out, HE called those dates. He asked what would be more romantic and what I would like to do for the dates. He’d make comments about us traveling and seeing places we’ve never been before. Told me that he’d love to go to New York with me and New Orleans. And since New Orleans is so close we should just go one weekend. I spent 4-5 days per week at his house. His mom absolutely loved me. When his grandma passed away he asked me to come with him shopping to pick out clothes for her funeral and he texted me the entire time he was in New York for the funeral. I didn’t text him first at all because he was going for a funeral and I didn’t want to be rude. But he texted me constantly each day he was there. Then told me to come over asap when he got back home. He’d met my mom and brother and my mom absolutely loved him as well. We had planned a day for our moms to meet and have lunch because we both thought they’d get along great. We told each other things we’ve never told anyone else. He asked me to stay the night with him several times and told me I should just start bringing my clothes to stay the night and maybe I needed a drawer there. Now all of a sudden all of that meant nothing and was just a hook up to him? I am beyond confused and have no idea what to do. I’d love to just walk away and call it a day because it’s only been 3 months. But, I really liked him. We connected so well and the chemistry between us was great. I feel like maybe he got scared of everything and is now trying to push me away.
Is there anything that I can do to save this or should I walk away now?
November 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm #31179123waterbottle
ParticipantIs there a way to have something that isn’t necessarily serious, but where you don’t see other people either? I’m not saying he has to call me his girlfriend and marry me. I just want to keep doing what we were doing and see what happens. Without him seeing other girls.. November 7, 2015 at 11:12 pm #31180April Masini
KeymasterThere are two things I think you can do. One is to continue seeing him, knowing he’s playing the field — and you should play the field, too. You may meet someone new, and at the same time, he may find that he’s more attracted to you when he doesn’t have you as easily as he did during the first three months of dating. Guys like to chase after someone and win them over, and if you give him something to chase, he may be more attracted to you than he is now, knowing he’s got you. 😎 However, this isn’t something that works for everyone.😉 So, if you’re the kind of person who isn’t interested in playing the field, and doesn’t want to know that that’s what he’s doing, then the second thing I’d advise is to move on and choose a dating service, app or site that isn’t associated with hook ups, the way Tinder is. Sites like eHarmony and even some of the bigger ones, with the right filters, can help you find men who are more interested in long-term, committed relationships. Tinder is known for it’s hookup culture. And another way you can try and protect yourself from hurt is to remember to use the first three months of dating anyone, to figure out if you want to continue dating each other, and to use the second three months, assuming you want to continue, to decide if you want to be monogamous or not. When you keep this time table, you can get to know the other person without too much pressure on either one of you, to define a relationship that’s still unripe, and by slowing things down, you can make smarter decisions.I hope that helps.
November 12, 2015 at 7:05 pm #31209123waterbottle
ParticipantThank you so much for all of your advice! We finally had an actual conversation and got everything out in the “open” between the two of us. He still left me slightly confused about what he wanted. Basically, he likes what we had but isn’t ready for a relationship and wants to continue talking to other girls. He said he wouldn’t date them or sleep with them while we were together. Which, if you’re not ready to date and you like what we have, why even continue talking to other girls? So I feel as if he was asking for a friends with benefits situation from me and I am not a big fan of that. I get emotionally involved and I don’t want to set myself up to be hurt. We had a really good thing going and maybe in the future we can try things again, but for now I’m done. He wants to continue a friendship if nothing else and to hangout like we always did before and I just can’t give him that. It would be very awkward for me to go over to his house and not have any physical contact. So, for now I have decided to take a step back and let him do his own thing while I do mine. Whenever I first downloaded Tinder and started using it my friend had suggested I give it a try. I wasn’t aware it was a “hookup” app when I downloaded it and started using it. But it’s become very obvious over time. It’s not something I’m into. I feel like at my age I’m ready for meaningful relationships and not just hookups, friends with benefits, or whatever you want to call it. I’ll definitely try out the other places if I decide to give the online dating thing another try later on. Thanks again for everything and I will definitely be back for more advice as times goes on!
🙂 November 13, 2015 at 12:18 am #31212April Masini
KeymasterYou’re very welcome — and good luck! November 13, 2015 at 9:26 pm #31216123waterbottle
ParticipantHaha, back again! It didn’t take very long. I backed off this last week and we have both done our own thing. I started talking to other guys to get my mind off of just focusing on him. Today he texted me and the conversation eventually led to talk of sexual things. Since I wasn’t really feeling the whole idea of having a confusing friends with benefits situation with him, I tried to make that clear in our conversation tonight. I kinda told him I’m sure it would be easy to find someone else and his response was, “I’m sure it’s way easier for you to find another penis lol.” To which I responded by saying I wasn’t really a fan of hookups or STD’s. The conversation goes on for a minute and we talk about random hookups and he says guys have it harder because they have to put in effort for a hookup and girls don’t. I tell him a place downtown where he can easily find a hookup. Letting him know that I’m not into the whole idea of a “hookup” between us and it is absolutely fine if he wants to go do that. He says, “What you do is superior to all others!” talking about how I make him feel during sex. So I replied with, “Haha but you haven’t tried theirs” as in the girls I suggested he go look for downtown for a hookup. He says “I’ve lived!” – Ok, good for you but why do this? So I responded by saying “Is this you putting in effort for a hookup? lol” – And his response “What the – no silly. You’re not a hookup crazy lady. You’re my friend, duh.” – He doesn’t know what he wants from me and I don’t like my emotions being toyed with. He’s not ready for a relationship, fine. I’m not ready to jump into a serious relationship either. But I don’t want to just have sex with him and have a friends with benefits relationship with him. I don’t get what he wants from me? November 13, 2015 at 10:07 pm #31218April Masini
KeymasterYou have to focus on what you want and not get distracted. Right now, he’s just a distraction. He’s bored and he’s looking for attention from you. I hope you’ll stay focused and move on so you can find your Mr. Right. I sincerely doubt he’s a guy from Tinder. November 17, 2015 at 11:55 am #31219April Masini
KeymasterJust checking in to see how things are going. Please let me know! Would love to hear from you. November 17, 2015 at 8:57 pm #31226123waterbottle
ParticipantHey! 🙂 We sort of got into another argument on Saturday about the same thing we’d been arguing over for two weeks now. He is very indecisive and has no idea what he wants. After reading your advice I decided to just stick to the original plan and back off and let him do his own thing. But, he just didn’t seem to be interested in that which led to the argument. We got into it about how he would make plans and then bail and how he was scared because he isn’t ready for a commitment and it overwhelmed him and he just wanted to be friends for now. But while saying all of this, he was rude. He wasn’t taking anyone’s feelings into consideration except for his own. I finally just told him this, “Look. You were the one calling things dates, you were the one to ask what would be romantic, I let YOU lead. Then when I tell you I like what we have you shut down and make me feel like just what you said this never was, a hookup.” and his response was “Sorry.” and that was it. Then it led into, “I can’t give you what you need. I can’t commit to all the time. If you can’t accept that then we shouldn’t be friends.” to which I said, “You aren’t even treating me like a friend.” – He said that when I told him I liked what we had that it made him shut down towards me and that’s why he became distant. Basically, we had our argument and he ended things rudely saying he was done talking about it and I either accept his way or no way. He wasn’t listening to anything I said because I was fine just letting things go between us and moving on. Then he said “I’m done. I’ll text tomorrow. Just stop.” – The argument took place over two days and we haven’t talked since it ended Sunday night when he said that last thing. I’m not texting him and I’m to the point I don’t care if we talk again because it’s just way more than I feel like dealing with. I’m sure we will eventually have to talk again because I do have things I left at his house.But yeah, I’m letting it go. He is definitely unsure of what he wants and I don’t have time to waste sitting around waiting for him to figure it out. He’s got a lot going on in his life and he’s not ready for a relationship, but he wants to continue having me around all the time and continue doing what we’re doing by just calling us friends. But by calling it friends, he wants to be able to shut down and disappear for days and have me be okay with that. Which I’m not. He was a really great guy and I loved spending time with him. I felt we really connected immediately the first time we met. I just don’t want to continue this back and forth and get nowhere. It’s not worth it to me.
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