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October 12, 2008 at 3:06 pm #772
lylez
ParticipantI’m writing this in response to the recent article “Dating Secret Exposed: Why Nice Guys Finish Last”. You know, this is about the billionth article about this that I’ve read. Any woman dumb enough to not realize that a guy who acts this way is just trying to apply the stupid stuff he’s read on the internet, is so dumb I wouldn’t want her anyway.
Women are always complaining about how horrible men are, yet they prefer jerks. Then they wonder why they aren’t promoted to positions of leadership and authority in the corporate world, and why nobody wants to vote to a women to represent them.
Every time I read one of these articles, my respect for woman goes down another 10%, and this has happened dozens of times. I guess eventually I’ll turn into a womanizing jerk who treats women like sperm toilets, and then they’ll think I
October 12, 2008 at 6:22 pm #8556kai
ParticipantI just read this article today after reading your post, and it really answered a LOT of questions for me. my experience is that it’s true. you really can’t show a girl how much you like her too soon or she will take advantage of you and put you in the ‘friends” category. i can’t tell you how many times it’s happened to me. October 12, 2008 at 8:16 pm #8562WJWJ
ParticipantI loved the article about how nice guys finish last. It describes my girlfriend and I perfectly. The question is, at what point should a man become the “good guy” and open his heart and give everything he has? For example, when I first met my girlfriend of almost 3 years now, I was that cocky, confident guy — she always wanted to see me and spend time with me — there was nothing I could do wrong. Throughout the course of our relationship I have become the always available man described in this article. As such, our relationship, namely her desire to be with me, talk to me, and spend time together, has faded greatly although she says she loves me so much. What should I do? Should I become cocky and unavailable to spark her interests and desire again? I mean, at what point during a relationship do you lose that ego and pour your heart out unconditionally? Or are you not supposed to ever do that? My heart aches for her to be that “old” girlfriend when we first started to date. This is the woman I want to marry someday but I’m so confused. Of course there are many details that go into this relationship which I will save until I can speak to April. I need to know if this relationship has hope or should I leave it now and find a better match. About me: I’m 29, in medical school, and there isn’t a woman I run into that doesn’t compliment me on my looks regardless of her age. Please help. October 13, 2008 at 3:13 am #8565lylez
Participant[quote=”WJWJ”]I loved the article about how nice guys finish last. It describes my girlfriend and I perfectly. The question is, at what point should a man become the “good guy” and open his heart and give everything he has? For example, when I first met my girlfriend of almost 3 years now, I was that cocky, confident guy — she always wanted to see me and spend time with me — there was nothing I could do wrong. Throughout the course of our relationship I have become the always available man described in this article. As such, our relationship, namely her desire to be with me, talk to me, and spend time together, has faded greatly although she says she loves me so much. What should I do? Should I become cocky and unavailable to spark her interests and desire again? I mean, at what point during a relationship do you lose that ego and pour your heart out unconditionally? Or are you not supposed to ever do that? My heart aches for her to be that “old” girlfriend when we first started to date. This is the woman I want to marry someday but I’m so confused. Of course there are many details that go into this relationship which I will save until I can speak to April. I need to know if this relationship has hope or should I leave it now and find a better match. About me: I’m 29, in medical school, and there isn’t a woman I run into that doesn’t compliment me on my looks regardless of her age. Please help.[/quote] Dump her! If you’re in medical school, 29, and good lucking, take advantage of this great opportunity and enjoy it. If she’s dumb enough to only want what she can’t have, you can do way better. Just imagine her 10 years, 30 pounds and 50% from now (as in, across the table from you in divorce court).
October 13, 2008 at 12:00 pm #8567skyler
ParticipantI’ve got a bone to pick with you about your article that talks bout why nice guys finish last. To put it shortly it enraged me. so you’re telling me the reason that I’m now in my senior year and never taken girl on date let alone kiss one is because Im TOO nice?!?! So a girl says no to the guy who would make her feel like royalty for the punk ass who probably is failing High school who could care less about them except for their body?!
So for me to get a girl I need to do bad in school, ride a motorcycle, and treat girls like utter dirt. Yeah, tht’s REAL good advice there….
What’s wrong with this effing world?!?! i thought this was just happening to be but it’s every where. the girls are turning down their dream guys for some asshole who will cheat on them or talk them into unwanted sex, or do something worse to them, and when it’s over, who are they going to run to for comfort? The nice guy, and even after he’s there for her she’ll dump him and go back to the jerk. they’ll still won’t learn a damn thing!
This world is full of shit…..
So in other words there’s no love for us nice guys huh?
– angry nice guy
October 13, 2008 at 12:08 pm #8568jgullet
ParticipantRegarding your article on why nice guys can’t get the girl, you are partially right. You are only considering American girls. I am no more than a 7-8 on the scale and am in my late 50’s (doesn’t hurt that I look 40..good genes), yet I date from 25 to 50 year olds. I have dated 9’s and 10’s. Got them being nice and being a jerk. One thing I found is….most
[u]American[/u] women are boring. They have become so self indulged, they care only about themselves and what they can get. By my own choice, the relationships lasted less than 3 dates.It’s been my experience that it’s true
[u]American[/u] women generally don’t fall head over heels for nice guys, preferring the guy who could care less about them.Now consider foreign women, especially ones from Asia, and Eastern block nations. All fabulously beautiful, fun, giving, interesting and just a better overall experience. They want you first and then will please themselves. Oh….my…..god !!!!!!
I suggest you research it and write a follow up for your audience.
October 14, 2008 at 10:21 am #8569Nicole
ParticipantI just read this article and thought it funny because it has been my experience that the “Cocky Guy” thing goes both ways. I’m what my guy and girl friends call a “nice bitch”. I am not afraid to tell a man what I think right from the get-go. I am attractive, (look 26 but I’m 38), and get hit on everywhere by every man 19-55 years old…the grocery store, the pool, blockbuster, the gas station, picking up my laundry or just hanging out with friends. When I meet a man the first thing I let him know is that I’m not looking for a man. I’m a single mom, with two boys and they are my focus. Everything else is secondary. I don’t have the time to “feed a man’s ego” by telling them how great they are or do whatever I need to do to get their attention. I’m blunt and honest and it just kills me that these traits of mine “attract” men more than anything! I think it is just like you said for men, I project confidence and I don’t appear needy. If a guy calls me great, if he doesn’t, no biggy…I’ll meet another guy. I am confident yes, but most importantly, I’m happy with my life, which doesn’t include a man!
I don’t meet many men like me….they are ALL NICE GUYS! They all want to give me money, buy me things, take me out and spoil me. But unfortunately for them, none of that does anything for me. I have my OWN money, I buy my OWN things, I SPOIL MYSELF! The guys that I am attracted to are the ones that respect my space, understand they will never be the most important thing in my life (because my kids are….although the man would be treated well), and the ones that don’t hoover around all the time waiting for a minute of my time. Plus, I don’t NEED a man, and I think that is where many women fall short….chasing after a guy makes one look desperate and weak….just like the Nice Guys in your article.
I liked your article alot, but PLEASE do one on women like ME! We are out there….fun, happy, satisfied gals with no need to have a man up under them all the time. Because honestly, I have two kids…I’m not looking for a third person to take care of! If more women were like me, I believe they’ld be too busy living their lives instead of waiting on someone to validate them.
Thank you for letting me contribute my opinion. I’m glad I found April! She’s right on the money!!!
Sincerely,
Nicole Altamirano
January 12, 2016 at 11:58 pm #8517April Masini
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