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October 30, 2008 at 3:02 pm #791
malia2003
ParticipantI am a 24 year old man, (not meaning to sound arrogant) but who despite being very attractive, sporty and has a nice body just cannot find a girlfriend to at least spend time with or have any kind of meaningful relationship with. The last girlfriend I had was 8 years ago when I was 16. Its not the problem with getting laid, Iv had so many one night stands and flings with so many girls (which I am not proud) of but seems the only other option I have as a young man who cannot find a girlfriend but still needs to enjoy and live his youth. I am sick and tired of one night stands and want to find a girl who I like in everyway and so I can actually say I have a girlfriend!!!! A lot of my friends see me as a male slag and think I will never be able to find a girlfriend and deep down I want to prove them wrong but also prove myself wrong as I am doubting that I ever will. People may say you have to improve your confidence but I can safely say that I am one of the most confident guys around females esp when I am out at bars etc…, infact it sometimes feels as if I rush things to quickly with girls and perhaps seduce too many women and therefore kill the whole trust thing. I am very insecure about this 8 year drought. My good friends tell me to not pressure yourself and continue to have fun with women, but I feel as though I am digging myself into an even bigger whole having fun and not trying to build proper friendships with girls. Infact I feel so ashamed of how many girls I have slept with(I honestly dont know the number but I know its high) that I am always thinking of ways to answer the question of when or if a girlfriend every pops the questions. I think about lying and saying its around 12 or just saying I dont even know but that would sound very bad. Many of my friends who are far worse looking seem to have very attractive girlfriends who stick to them like glue. I know its more about the inside of a person than the outside, but I feel I am the only person who cannnot find the right girl to settle down with. I so want to know what I have been doing wrong for 8 years as I have travelled and met so many different women and have been told that I am extremely attractive by nearly every person I meet, but yet I cant find that special person and its making me deeply concernced. I would be very appreciative of anyone who can try and steer me in the right direction as I am near the point of just giving up the dream of ever having a GF.thanks, Jamie October 30, 2008 at 11:05 pm #8616serendipidous55
ParticipantIt seems that you relate to women in only a superficial way – sexually. This may be a stage of life or you have trained yourself to get sexual satisfaction and move on. I would think that you either view women as sexual objects ( possibly your upbringing embraced that) or you are sexually confident but very insecure about the rest of yourself. ie Insecure that the rest of you can not compete or attract a woman. November 1, 2008 at 8:18 am #8618malia2003
ParticipantOk so what kind of advice would you give me to improve my chances of finding a girlfriend in the future? Not going to bars anymore..? refusing to have sex on the first night(mostly all girls I go for are attractive and a lot of them offer sex on first date) or even 2nd or 3rd date? Also I feel I am a bit impatient, not willing to hang around for a girl, because I know I can quite easily get another girl, a lot of guys who might not be as attractive seem to be more persistant and patient and in the end through sheer determination get the girl, should I be more patient? I would be interested to hear your views on these questions and any other advice you may have for me. Thanks
Jamie
November 1, 2008 at 12:24 pm #8619April Masini
KeymasterWell, Jamie, you’ve asked several questions between your two posts so I’m going to try and condense my answer and concentrate on how to achieve your goal. You say that you want to stop having one night stands and start having actual relationships? Okay…. Here’s what I suggest you do. First, you should figure out who the woman of you dreams actually is — meaning the type of girl you want to date and have a relationship with. Not the kind of girl you would have a one night stand with, but an actual on-going relationship. ( I strongly suspect that there’s a difference between the kind of girl you’d hook-up in a bar with for one night and one that you can imagine spending six months — or the rest of your life with. Right?) Now, if your ideal woman is Pamela Anderson, you’ve got a problem because there’s only one of her. But if it’s someone with a figure like Pamela Anderson, who’s successful with a sweet disposition, a job in the arts, a single mom (or a single person without kids) — we can begin to piece together a real person
November 1, 2008 at 3:14 pm #8620serendipidous55
ParticipantIt would seem to me that you need to set your priorities and stick to them. If your priority is to have something more than a one night stand sex, then you need to develop new behaviors and break old behaviors. But sex is extremely gratifying and you have a long term behavior that is ingrained. This is not a behavior which causes physical pain- but at some level it causes you psychic pain, emotional void, ….something at a deeper level. So think about how you change your other behaviors… cold turkey or committing to a new way of doing things, getting a friend to whom you are accountable, writing down goals. Also, spend time with people who have good ,deep, longf term relationships; they can incentivize you to act differently.
Animals have non discriminating sex. But can we agree that you ae much higher than an animal? That there are parts of you longing to enjoy companionship, interesting conversation, fun and funny times, a woman who can help you achieve more in a career..
We move toward pleasure and away from pain. Make a long term relationship a pleasureable thing in your mind and seriously ponder the painful consequences of continuing with one night sex … there are painful consequences.. AIDS, Diseases, emotional shut down, not having kids, being known as the one night stand guy..
Honestly, you sound like a nice guy… your future could be so much brighter, so much bigger, so much more rewarding to you if you choose new behaviors and grow up. Are any of these one night stand women going to be there for you when you need help? when life isn’t so rosey. Think of your self as the best and on a path to achieving the best and how great it would be to have an intelligent, classy, funny, beautiful woman cheering you on!! God has a better plan than what you have laid out for yourself. Serendipidous55
November 2, 2008 at 4:47 pm #8625malia2003
ParticipantThanks for your detailed response April and the other user, I very much appreciate both. I have always been told by close friends that you can never go searching for a partner, like it just happens naturally but are you telling me my friends are wrong in your opinion? I guess I am looking for a sweet blonde petite girl who is very caring and very laid back and good at discussing my problems with. I have experienced living with snappy girls who I tend to argue with and I don’t want to have that kind of situation. She would need to be slightly younger than me 22 say, def no kids for sure and come from a decent background, like me. My father was a lawyer, and my parents have looked after me really well and I have been brought up really well. I am more of a get a go guy always playing soccer (football we call it in UK!) and has strong view about certain things but very respectful and honest person who would be very loyal in a relationship, I see guys who are not as attractive as me with beautiful girlfriends and treat them like rubbish, cheating all the time, it makes me sick. Its funny I recently made a good friend at University and although he is a great guy to tell the truth he is a very unatractive guy.Anyway he invites me out for dinner with his girlfriend so it is the 3 of us. His girlfiend is probably all that I could ever want. Sweet, petite, caring, good looking and yet he kinda treats her like c*ap wen hes out with us(not sure what its like behind closed doors!) and im thinking if only this type of girl was mine, and I can kinda tell she fancies me wen we’r out, he is a mate so I would never do anything with her but its a good example of why I am so confused with everything. I cant believe how lucky this guy is!! I get on really well with the girl too which is so annoying, its like why do I NEVER find this type of girl!!!
Although I might be viewed as a male slag, I know that if I was in any relationship it would be only with a girl I really like and therefore I could never bring myself to cheat on someone I really like. Infact I am living with 4 or 5 difrerent girls in my house at university and one tells me I look like Daniel Craig the bond star, and that I could be on a bond movie, flattering but very frustrating for me as although I am getting these wonderful compliments,I know deep down that in 8 years I have never had a special girl in my life (luckily the girls dont know this at all). You are right I have to stay focused on the goal, but in terms of finding a girlfriend I feel as if it will never happen and my confidence is very low in this respect and its like I dont know where to search or being because I am so used to being the one night stand man. On the other hand seducing women in bars and clubs, or anywhere I find very easy and my confidence is high in this respect.
I am very insecure about the question being posed about how many women I have slept with. To tell you the truth I dont know how many but I know it is high. I kind of want to tell a white lie because I know that if I get into a relationship I will be loyal and honest but I dont want to start off with a lie! If I say I dont know havent counted, that sounds like I have lost count which is terrible! If I say a number like 10 thats a lie but at least they have an answer and its not going to make them look down on me. What would your advice be to me on this? I do enjoy going to bars still, would you say completely stop this? Perhaps I can go to bars with a different attitude? What else shall I concentrate on? You are right that all it takes is one girl who I click with but it seems unrealistic to me at the moment to be honest. Any other advice would be great. Also do you think books like the game and art of seduction are desgined for getting women into bed or designed at helping you to relate with more attractive women better, after reading half of the game it seems its designed for quick sex(which I feel I dont need advice on!) and not longer term relationships. What do you think?
thanks for your advice once again.
November 2, 2008 at 8:50 pm #8626serendipidous55
ParticipantSince you are searching, you are definitely taking a first step forward. People don’t usualy stop eating candy and cake cold turkey. Thye lay out a game plan and make changes and reward themselves in different ways than sweets.
heavy people usually don’t start exercising by runnung a marathon. They get into a gym and strt slowly.
What would it look like to you to make a list of 5 girls that ar possible long term relationships ( or go to your friends or their girlfriends) and tell them you want to develop a long term relationship and could they introduce you to someone who meets your general list? Don’t tellme girls don’t know other girls and that the girl you like doesn’ have nice friends…. Then you COMMIT to taking them out each 2-3 times. You commit to not sleeping with them on those dates. And you commit to thinking about what you really want to accompk,ish with your life and how a woman might fit into that…ie if you want to be in corporate biz, having a classy lady is better than a blonde with a specific height; if you want to ahve kids someday, then hang with girls that you would want to see raising your own children. Bud, take pen or pencil in hand and start to put down in writing your dreams , your goals and make some simp0le commitments to yourself.
I also suggest that you deal with your insecurities. Yes the whole world is insecure esp the billionaires…and the beauty queens. I found myself thru the AL ANon program. I never had agreat self image… ating back to childhood. Some say very good looks, very affluent, extremely well educated, very successful, very sweet and guess what… for a long time I was very insecure. But I share with you so that you can get this address sooner rathe than later because unitl you do, it clouds your vision, it distorts your decisionmaking and it limits the potential for your life.
Can’t you tell…. April and I are cheering for you !!!!! So play ball, bud and get back to us with an action plan. Your plan. Your commitment to yourself.
November 13, 2008 at 5:40 am #8656debra18
ParticipantMaybe, every time you have a date with a woman, they got bored with you. Women, like me doesn’t look only the physical looks, we’re much more on the attitude like, have a good sense of humor,gentle man of course and matured guy that knows how to handle relationship and etc.. November 15, 2008 at 8:45 am #8661serendipidous55
ParticipantHi! Let’s get some feedback as to what your new game plan is, what priorities you ahve established for dating, etc.
It may be that you are bored by the women. If you are aking them out again and they are declinign, that is feedback to you. If you are not asking them out after one night escapades, then that is different. I think I wrote previously that you need to value a woman for more than sex- forher insight, her humor, her companionship, her ability to cause you to grow personally, her support in a career, her ability to be a good parent, etc.
Let’s here from you!
November 25, 2008 at 5:04 pm #8688malia2003
ParticipantHi sorry for taking such a long time to reply this is the first time I have logged in since I last replied. I would say firstly that the girls I have one night escapades with I do not ask out on another date again. This is simply because I view it that if she has given into me on the first date then she is too easy and could be capable of doing this with someone else if we started dating. I know this is hypocritical but its just a gut feeling that I don’t want to be spending quality time with a girl who slept with me on the first encounter. I would love to find a girl who is a good parent to me and can help me with situations other than getting me aroused in the bedroom! The problem is I don’t know where to look. The obvious place is bars and clubs but the problem is most people in these places are after quick thrills and fun and its not a good place to go hunting for a girl with dencent values and often girls are very defensive in bars and put on fake acts to lok good in front of their mates and hence you never get to meet the real person in bars if you follow me. Where should I start looking as im really not too sure? should i completely give up going to bars even though I enjoy it? There are three girls I recently viewed as girlfriend material. 1st I tried an approach in the supermarket. The girl was absoultely gorgeous so I thought you know what im good looking enough and have a good personality so im going to get chatting to her. I did and we got on well and she told me to add her on facebook. I waited 4 days then added her played it a bit cool, and I got a response almost immediately and then i replied and got nothing back. This is the thing it kinda fizzled out quickly and i dont know whether to be one of those desperate guys( which I have never been before) and message again, or just to leave it as dont want to come across as desperate. Any suggestions on how I should pursue this?
Girl 2 is a girl I met through the social groups via the football and netball teams and University (English Universities) and she is gorgeous, very petite and get on well. However I have seen her kissing this one guy when we are out (no more) and seen her together with him a lot, and although she says she has my approval from other people she always seems to be with him. She is a bit known in the sports and social network (which everyone knows about) and to be honest I am thinking I would rather date a girl outside these types of networks as people know everyones history and it is a bit Cliquey but she is hot and I get on well with her. The fact she is kissing another guy is very offputting and I think this girl may not be for me. Any ideas? Would she be kissing this other guy to make me jealous?? I dont know. ALso I kissed one of her friendss at the start of term and she is constantly using this against me sayingyou cant kiss me if you kissed my friend, im thinkin but its ok for you to go around kissing other guys in front of me!
Girl 3: A girl who is in 2 of my groups at uni. Blonde attactive sporty, perhaps a little to sporty as she is a sprinter and has very toned body! She is in 2 groups so have become good friends with her and she is moaning why she never gets taken on a date so it seems like a perfect opportunity. I get on with her like a house on fire in terms of we take the piss out of each other and joke about each other in a funny way but if I ask her out and she rejects me then I have to live with that for next 2 years and our friendship could be very awkward from then on. again a very difficult situation.
Im not sure if any of these girls are viable options but at least I am starting to look. I am still enjoying myself at parties but honestly dont know where this girlfriend will come from. I am fearing the worst that I have something wrong with me (in my approach) and that I will never find a girlfriend!! All advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks x
November 26, 2008 at 5:35 pm #8694SexySuzieQ
Participantgood for you! i think you’re on the right track. i hear the same thing from my guy friends about women they hookup with the first night. they’ll hookup for one night with them but they don’t want to have them as their girlfriends. booty call, maybe, but not a girlfriend.
i think you should ask the girl out that you like. my current boyfriend used to hangout with my friends too and he was nervous about asking me out too. finally he did and now we’ve been dating for a year.
you don’t ask, you don’t get…
😀 November 26, 2008 at 5:44 pm #8695SexySuzieQ
Participanti also think you should message the beautiful girl you met in the supermarket again. you say you’ve never had to pursue a girl like this before and think you’ll look desperate if you contact her more than once, but wasn’t that the point of what you wanted? to date some one who WASN’T like the one night stand women you used to date? the kind of girl you want is not going to be as easy to get and you are going to have to make an effort and work at getting them. if you expect them to be easy, then you should go back to dating the sluts. if you want someone who is better quality you’re going to have to take more risks and try harder. 😉 November 27, 2008 at 8:56 pm #8696malia2003
ParticipantThanks for the reply. I guess you are right. I have never pushed for a girl recently as I have read books like the game and other books that say you should never look desperate and didnt think I shoud be leaving her message after message…but by playing it cool over the last 4 or 5 years it really hasnt worked for me and hence I have been single for ages! I think you have a point definately. I may have to live outside my comfort zone a bit, but thats all part of getting the girl I want right? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated, bcoz I am so keen to get a girlfriend and still dont know what I can do to get one!! thanks December 14, 2008 at 12:12 pm #8746JMG
ParticipantHey! You’ve gotten some amazingly good replies so far. I think everyone who’s read your messages can really appreciate the effort and willingness to learn and be guided that you are putting in this. That being the case, I’m fairly sure that having a superficial personality isn’t your problem, 😉 though you may be a bit awkward at letting your personality show through yet. Some other ideas in your pursuit of the the “real” woman — try some of the old-fashioned methods, too! They may seem corny (flowers, chocolates, etc.), but there are some aspects of chivalry and romance that have lost their prevalence but not their sincerity or impression on young hopefuls (like me!). To tell you the truth, I’ve never gotten flowers from a boyfriend or even a potential boyfriend, but if some guy gave me flowers, I’m going to take special note of that because it is more of a novelty in this day and age. Just something else to help you snag that special someone and stand you apart from the crowd. Another tip…especially if you are so athletic — learn how to dance! Not the bump-and-grind, hip hop, disco stuff… something like ballroom, two-step, swing, something! (My friends and I here in the midwestern US like western country music and country swing.) That way, you can invite her out to an evening or afternoon where you get to have your hands all over her (in a polite, restrained, yet somehow incredibly hot sort of way), teach her some moves (or maybe she already knows!), and both get your hearts racing while getting all sweaty!🙂 March 20, 2009 at 10:13 am #8944malia2003
ParticipantI am sure everyone reading this will remember me. I wrote on here back in October, unhappy as although I am an attractive guy, I have never been able to find a proper girlfriend in 8 years. Well finally I might have found what I am looking for but it is ever so complicted and I need advice(Its a long story): (I am from the united Kingdom)
I met this guy in a lecture at the start of this year and we got on well and ended up out watchin soccer together, and a lunch here and there together etc…He seemed really cool. He had lived in USA for 5 years coaching soccer and was just studying to get a degree with his girlfriend, so we had something in common. I wouldnt say he was a great friend of mine, but we have had beers together talking about USA as I had lived in US for 1 year previously etc… In the lecture I met him in it required groups, so we got together in a group, and that particular module lasts until June 2009(remember that date as I will come back to it).Anyway it turns out I start to have lectures with his girlfriend. She is American and Obviously we have a lot to talk about and we started spending a lot of time together as she is a really good student. She is a very hard working as I am, so we both push each other to work to the best of our abilities, which is great. She is hot, the first time I saw her(before meeting the boyfriend) I said to myself, who the hell is she!
Anyway as time passed, we have just naturally spent loads and loads of time together. She comes to watch me play footy and we work together, nothing physical, just friendship. Meanwhile I havent really been seeing the guy, I have other friends around campus and its (as you can imagine getting awkwad). I haven’t been nasty towards him, its just he hangs out in different areas and never really goes out. I also found out how he treats her. il tell you a few instances that I have witnessed(god knows what goes on behind closed doors):
1) Me and HER are working on a project at her place and he tells her: “clean the fuckin place up you whore!”
2) Tells her “you are not in …(nice part of USA) anymore darling, so take your fuckin sunglasses off!”
3) In the library and he says to her “Are you gonna kiss me then???, Kiss me im your fucking boyfriend, she replied no!!” and blushed, He said “why are you blushing”, meanwhile I was standing there, it was so awkwad.!!!
4) Me and the BF had lunch together and he told me ” She doesnt know shes born, when we have kids together they are going to grow up in the north of England and not have the easy life in (nice part of US), show them how tough north of england is”.
5) She tells me she is going to the gym when 3 of us (including the BF) are leaving the library and he tells her “yea get to the gym you lazy bitch”
6) He told her if you go out with your mates and you are later than 2am you must not come in at all (because he had a 9.15 the next day) as I dont want to be woken!!!Theres more but those are the 6 comments that I remember the most.
So hes treating her like shit and lately the situation has gotten worse. She and her mates invited me out for a drink, she had loads, the boyfriend was away. She text me saying she was lonely and scared as she was on her own at 2am, and asked whether I could come over and watch a movie with her to keep her company. I told her I was tired and made up an excuse why I coudn’t come over (obviously, I was extremely tempted). One reason I am in the BFs group until June 09, and I didn’t want my degree to be affected, and I thought it was just far too complicated. (It is clear that she adores me) Also I felt it was unfair, even though he treats her like a door mat. Things carried on being exactly the same, its as if I am her Boyfriend, but without any physical contact.
Last night same thing happens, her boyfriend gone away with her for the weekend but came back to uni to see me! She had free house and went out with herr mates. She was beggin me to go out with her, and even saying if you dont come out, I will come to see you after at 2am! .I was kinda ill and didnt go out…she was still texting me frantically the whole night. I didn’t go out, partly because I was ill, but kinda a bit blown away by it all and realise she is in a relationship I am single and therefore it would bw wrong fo anything to happen at this stage.
Heres the conclusion.
The boyfriend is no oil painting, hes ridiculously ugly and comes from a bad part of UK. I come in and haven’t tried to take advantage of her, (but as you are fully aware I could have twice by now which I think she likes as it shows she can trust me). Many good looking lads have tried it wth her but shes not interested, she calls them sleazy and you can tell she only likes genuine nice guys. She sees a guy from a nice part of England, whos sporty and better looking than what she currently has, who get on much better. She said yesterday, she “loves spending time with me”.
She is perfect, she works hard at uni, she cares so much for me but its so fuckin complicated!! As you are aware I don’t find girls like this easily, the last one was when I was 16, and she was nothing compared to this girl! This girl has the all round package, shes one in a million as far as girls come and go in my life but its a nightmare situation. She has even signed the contract for the rent with the boyfriend for next year, september 2009-> June 2010. This is why its so complicated.
However we met up the other night, and I told her that I liked her and she said she really adores me and wants to be with me…. but I said:
– I don’t want to be a reason for you two to break up, I should not come into the equation, I would hate to feel like I caused a break up
– I am still in his group until june so I wouldnt want to do anything until that is finished
– She has been in a long relationship and im sure wanted a break if they were to split. She agreed
– There is no pressure as I am more than happy havin a great friend if she didnt want to split with her boyfriend, so please dont feel like you want to dump your BF just because I say I am interested.After this conversation she told me, she is going to split with her BF and that shes realised how much better she could do. But I really dont want to be the reason for the split, or anything awkwad to happen. My mate did speak to her before I let her know I liked her and she said she was really unhappy, so I guess I cant be to blame
Its getting to a really awkwad point mate. I wouldn’t like to be stabbed in the back myself, but man this is what I have been waiting for, for 8 years for. She is 1) Hot, 2) Smart, 3) Caring person, 4) Funny 5) 6) Even enhances my uni grades, which is the opposite affect most girls have on a guy! and above all 7) likes me for who I am. The fact shes from USA a country I love is a bonus!
By the way I haven’t kissed her or anything is all totally non-physical.
The way I see it is there are many options and I would like your advice if at all possible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated,
thanks
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